For the 13,500 SSEP Mission 11 to ISS Student Researchers – A Challenge for the Start of Program: Understanding Weightlessness – You Want Me to Take a Bathroom Scale Where?

Note that this Challenge is covered as part of the program start Skype for your community’s Local Team of Mission 11 educators. These Skypes for the Mission 11 communities are being conducted by SSEP National Program Director Dr. Jeff Goldstein through Wednesday, September 21, 2016.

This blog post is for teachers in the 21 communities across the U.S. and Canada that just started SSEP Mission 11 to ISS. You are invited to use this Challenge with your students to get them thinking about the concept of microgravity (the technical name for the phenomenon of ‘weightlessness’). As part of this Challenge, students are asked to submit what they think is an answer in the ‘Leave a Reply’ section below. Please encourage your students to submit answers, so that all students visiting this blog post can see what other Mission 11 students across the U.S. and Canada are thinking. Let’s use this blog post as a social media platform for sharing thoughts about microgravity.

The solution to the Challenge will be posted to this SSEP National Blog on Wednesday, September 21, 2016. 

 

I’ve heard a lot about this weightlessness stuff, with astronauts having a great time floating around in space. It’s like they weigh nothing at all. So I wanted to find out first hand what’s going on up there. Since they don’t have a spare seat on the next flight to low Earth orbit (at least not yet), I looked far and wide to find an amazingly tall mountain whose peak rises to the Space Station’s altitude in orbit so I could climb up and see for myself.

Station orbits the Earth close to 260 miles (420 km) above sea level, and, by the way, crew and station are zipping along at 4.7 MILES PER SECOND (7.6 km/sec) relative to you sitting there at your computer. Bam. The Station just moved 4.7 miles. Really.

It took some Googling, but I found that really tall mountain! See my mountain in the picture? It accidentally got captured in an old Space Shuttle photo. Mt. Everest is only 5.5 miles (8.8 km) high. MY mountain (Jeff’s Peak) is 260 miles (420 km) high. I found it south of the Land of Make-Believe, down a not too well traveled path. Still, you’d think someone would have noticed it since it’s 47 times higher than Mt. Everest. (Have you ever heard of Jeff’s peak? No? See, nobody knows about it!)

So this week, I’m going to take the time to climb my mountain, and in my hand is my trusty bathroom scale, spring-loaded and guaranteed to be accurate at any altitude. I’ll camp out at the top, and I’ll wait until Space Station flies right by my mountain, so I can look in the windows and see if those lucky astronauts are weightless and floating around.

Here now the challenge—
As soon as I confirm they’re weightless in the Space Station, I’ll step on my bathroom scale to see my weight. If I weigh say 150 lbs when I’m standing on my scale in my bathroom at home, what will I weigh on top of my mountain?

Hint: You don’t actually need to calculate my weight. I’ll do that in the Solution to the Challenge. Your assignment—if you decide to accept it—is to guess what you think I’ll weigh and why. Hmmmm, lots of possibilities.

Submit your guesses below in the ‘Leave a Reply’ section, and remember to include why you think your guess is correct. Students of ALL ages are welcome to post a guess.

I’ll even give you a week to noodle on this in class, and at home with your parents. I’ll post the answer next Wednesday, September 21, 2016, right here at the SSEP National Blog. See you then, and good luck noodling!

Also – if you want to follow along with the latest news from the Student Spaceflight Experiments Program (SSEP), you are invited to subscribe to the SSEP National Blog at the bottom of the right column.

[**Metric system note: in the metric system, weight is measured in Newtons (N). 150 lbs is equivalent to 667 Newtons, which is the weight of a 68 kg mass at Earth’s surface.]

The solution to this challenge was posted here on September 21, 2016.

 


The Student Spaceflight Experiments Program (SSEP) is a program of the National Center for Earth and Space Science Education (NCESSE) in the U.S., and the Arthur C. Clarke Institute for Space Education internationally. It is enabled through a strategic partnership with NanoRacks LLC, working with NASA under a Space Act Agreement as part of the utilization of the International Space Station as a National Laboratory. SSEP is the first pre-college STEM education program that is both a U.S. national initiative and implemented as an on-orbit commercial space venture.

The Smithsonian National Air and Space MuseumCenter for the Advancement of Science in Space (CASIS), and Subaru of America, Inc., are U.S. National Partners on the Student Spaceflight Experiments Program. Magellan Aerospace is a Canadian National Partner on the Student Spaceflight Experiments Program.

203 Responses to For the 13,500 SSEP Mission 11 to ISS Student Researchers – A Challenge for the Start of Program: Understanding Weightlessness – You Want Me to Take a Bathroom Scale Where?

  1. Dr. Gary R. Munn September 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

    Congratulations Jeff and all the participating students!! How lucky you are to have this program where you can actually perform Science experiments in Space. Something we couldn’t have even dreamed of when I was in school!

    Use this experience to continue a life long interest in Science, just as I have. We need INFORMED Science people now more than ever!!!

    Best of luck to all of you!!

    • Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 12:57 am #

      Weight would be approximately the same (150lbs). The reason the astronauts are feeling weightless is because they are in free fall, however, since they are moving horizontally incredibly fast, they miss the earth as they fall. Since you are not moving, you feel the same weight.
      Possible, but small variation could be either: less weight, due to greater distance from Earths center, or greater weight, because the very large mass of Jeff’s peak would be pulling you towards it.

    • marley September 20, 2016 at 10:35 am #

      I think you would weight 14 lbs.

  2. Patrick Davidson September 15, 2016 at 9:10 am #

    Hello from Waterford Twp., NJ…an astronaut’s weight is roughly 16% of what is on Earth.

  3. Macarthy September 15, 2016 at 11:11 pm #

    I beilive that if you are 420km above sea level your weight will decrease a lot… not sure how much though.

  4. Anonymous September 15, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

    I think that their weight will get lighter at the top of the mountain because they are farther away from the Earth’s center, which makes the force of gravity lessen due to the increased distance.

  5. Cole Mountain September 16, 2016 at 11:42 am #

    I think that you would be almost weightless but you would still weigh a bit because you still wouldn’t be out of the atmosphere. (15lbs)

  6. J September 16, 2016 at 10:55 pm #

    133 lbs. less because the gravitational force has become weaker.

  7. Colin B. September 18, 2016 at 8:51 pm #

    I think you`ll weight less the higher you get- probably not much of a difference due to the distance being quite small compared to something like the moon or sun.

  8. Anonymous September 19, 2016 at 12:16 am #

    His weight will be close to nothing since our atmosphere doesn’t reach up to 420 km high leaving him far out in space with no gravity holding his weight down.

  9. sheldon September 19, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

    when a person is on a mountain he/she will weigh more then the person in the ISS.because
    there is gravity on the mountain and in space/ISS there is no gravity.

  10. Rayne September 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm #

    I thought that in space the microgravity will make you shrink but then a friend made me think about it then I changed my mind and said that it will make you taller.

  11. monica September 19, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

    I think that he won’t get to see his weight because he has no gravity on earth space a all even if he is on the mountain

  12. DeYonie September 19, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

    I believe that your weight would be slightly lighter because since you are on top of a mountain and you are near the space atmosphere your weight would slightly decrease.

  13. R'riel Donar September 19, 2016 at 4:53 pm #

    You would stay the same weight from if you are on earth on a bathroom scale compared to you being on the top of a mountain the only thing that would change is the height.

  14. Nathan September 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm #

    I think I would not be the same weight because your weight less in space there is no gravity at all so you would not feel all the weight that you would feel standing on top of a mountain.

  15. Izais September 19, 2016 at 6:06 pm #

    I think you will weigh about 86lbs if you were 150lbs because u will get lighter because your in space but you still have gravity pulling you down because if it wasn’t the Moutan wouldn’t be there and the rocks would have floated away.

  16. Sam Collins September 19, 2016 at 6:19 pm #

    If I am on top of a mountain that is at the same altitude as the International Space Station, I will weigh the same. This is because we are at the same altitude which means the same distance from the core of the earth, meaning that there is the same gravitational pull. One Question: If all of the solar panels on the International Space Station were to break would it be able to keep it’s altitude.

  17. Edith September 19, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

    I think he is going to weight 0.05

  18. Taveon September 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

    I think your not gonna weigh the same. Because there is no gravity so your not gonna feel the way you feel on earth right now. and every thing goes faster on the earth Than space.

  19. Seth September 19, 2016 at 7:32 pm #

    I think you might weigh about 1/4 of his actual weight because hes in space and theres gonna be no gravity pulling down on you

  20. Chaedon September 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm #

    i think that the person will stay the same weight because even though he is near the edge of the atmosphere that edge of the atmosphere is strong enough to pull a meteorite down to earth so i do not see why it can hold a person so that is why i do not think they will lose weight

  21. shaye September 19, 2016 at 8:42 pm #

    I think if you use a bathroom scale on the top of a mountain you will be heavier and it will be hard for you to breath. We are not like the astronauts who are floting in space without gravity.

  22. Chaedon September 19, 2016 at 8:54 pm #

    I think that the person will still be the same weight as he is off of the mountain. He will not lose weight because he is higher up to the atmosphere so it will pushing him down even more then it was when he was off the mountain

  23. Cristabel September 19, 2016 at 9:30 pm #

    I think that you will weigh less because it is in outer space and there is no gravity in space so maybe you will become lighter to like float around like they do in the space craft. But I also think that you will weigh the same because it has the same altitude as the earth because the mountain is still on earth. But i don’t think it will madder about your weight in space.

  24. Cristabel September 19, 2016 at 9:31 pm #

    i don;t think it will madder in space because their is no gravity and it doesn’t mean anything.

  25. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 9:29 am #

    I think that he would weigh 135 pounds in space.

  26. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 9:30 am #

    You would weigh the same

  27. Christian I September 20, 2016 at 9:31 am #

    I think he will weigh half of what he does on earth.

  28. Brianna September 20, 2016 at 9:31 am #

    I think you would roughly weigh 16 pounds

  29. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    he will weigh 5 pounds

  30. Branden O'Connor September 20, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    Jeff is going to weigh 0 pounds.

  31. izzy September 20, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    he will weigh 20 pounds

  32. Aidan September 20, 2016 at 9:57 am #

    He will weigh the exact same on Jeff’s Peak than on the ground. He is not far enough into space to become weightless.

  33. Brandon, and Ethan September 20, 2016 at 9:58 am #

    35 LBS he will way..

  34. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 9:58 am #

    He will weigh nothing because there is not any gravity.

  35. Nick September 20, 2016 at 9:58 am #

    about 5 punds becuse of the gravity.

  36. Jaylene September 20, 2016 at 9:59 am #

    I think he will weigh nothing because the is no weight in space.

  37. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 9:59 am #

    He will weigh the almost the same on earth as in space because he can still walk.

  38. Abigail September 20, 2016 at 10:00 am #

    He will weigh nothing because the is not any gravity.

  39. Shane September 20, 2016 at 10:00 am #

    I think he would be 20 pounds because he has to weigh at least some pounds to move

  40. Branden O'Connor September 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    he will weigh 0 lbs.

  41. ryan john September 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    I think it will matter he will be light and weigh 0 lbs

  42. Anonymous September 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    you will weight a little lighter becuase you are not directley on the ground Preston Mento

  43. izzy tedesco September 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    he will weigh 0.15 pounds

  44. Jaylene September 20, 2016 at 10:01 am #

    I think he will weigh nothing because in space there is no gravity

  45. Gabby September 20, 2016 at 10:02 am #

    I think he will wight 0lbs

  46. izzy tedesco September 20, 2016 at 10:02 am #

    i think he will be 0.15 pounds

  47. Orlando September 20, 2016 at 10:03 am #

    I believe that he won’t weigh much less than 150 pounds. He will most likely weigh about 135 pounds.

  48. giada September 20, 2016 at 10:03 am #

    he will weigh 0 pounds because he will not be able to put his weight on the ground

  49. Dominic September 20, 2016 at 10:34 am #

    i think he is going to be 0.4

  50. audrianna September 20, 2016 at 10:34 am #

    I think 0 pounds

The Student Spaceflight Experiments Program (SSEP) is a program of the National Center for Earth and Space Science Education (NCESSE) in the U.S., and the Arthur C. Clarke Institute for Space Education internationally. It is enabled through a strategic partnership with DreamUp PBC and NanoRacks LLC, which are working with NASA under a Space Act Agreement as part of the utilization of the International Space Station as a National Laboratory. SSEP is the first pre-college STEM education program that is both a U.S. national initiative and implemented as an on-orbit commercial space venture.